Finland President Stubb Says Listen to What Trump Has to Say

Let me get straight to the question of the underground cables that have been

ripped up by ship anchors several times in the last 15 months.

You think that sabotage? Well, I mean, we attribute to when we

know exactly what's happened. So we've had three of these cases in the

past year. First time we let the ship go.

I think that was a mistake. Second time it was in Swedish, German

waters. They boarded and third time we actually

confiscated. But investigations are still ongoing and

there are always a couple of options. One is sabotage and the other one is

mistake. And the third one is incompetence.

Do you have evidence for sabotage? Well, our investigation is still

ongoing, so we can't really take a stand on that.

But the bottom line is it doesn't really matter who does it.

The most important thing is that we're able to prevent it.

And if we're not able to prevent it, that we can actually correct it very

quickly. Now, of course, we have a Baltic Sentry

operation in the Baltic Sea. So I think our situation picture is

better than what it used to be and we're able to deal with it.

And I think the Finnish model actually works.

You have said this. You said that when you find the culprit,

you'll use all attributes to attribute it.

But that hasn't happened. No, not yet.

But, you know, we need to be we're very much of a rule of law based society.

So we have a criminal investigation. And once that is finished, then we draw

our conclusions. And you think that you're confident that

the naval drones that you've now agreed would patrol the Baltic will be enough

to prevent this? You can never prevent to be 100% sure,

but you need to have some kind of a model.

And our model is very clear. It was a private sector.

that told after an hour that the cable had been cut.

Our authorities then identified one of two ships that it could have been.

They went on top of the other one and moved it to our waters and the rest

followed. So, you know, you can't prevent every

case. But because we are now controlling the

shadow fleet better, because we have better underwater infrastructure

before, because we can actually deal with different operations, I think we're

much better at it. How would you if you do find evidence of

sabotage and you and you name the culprit, what do you what would you

expect to be the further ramifications of that?